Posted Sun Aug 12, 2007 02:10 PM
Posted Sun Aug 12, 2007 02:16 PM
btw....I don't smoke, and never have....
Posted Sun Aug 12, 2007 02:17 PM
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Posted Sun Aug 12, 2007 02:24 PM
Again, don't take any of this the wrong way, just trying to shed some light on a sitch.
Posted Sun Aug 12, 2007 02:26 PM
Posted Sun Aug 12, 2007 04:20 PM
Posted Sun Aug 12, 2007 04:46 PM
I don't have a problem with the smoking ban itself, i do have a problem with the draconian way in which it's been put into effect though.
Surely if i want my pub to be a smoking bar then that is my choice as a landlord, the same as if people do not want to go to a smoking bar that is their choice?
Obviously consideration has to be used with the recruiting of bar staff etc, but i know plenty of smoking bar fillies.
The workplace now has changed. I work with men in vans, some smoke, some dont, no one really has a clue what the actual law is, and the company I work for's policy has been pretty well introduced. What it fails on though is who is going to police this smoking ban?
surely the law enforcers have barely enough time on their hands to catch all the honest decent working men, and the speeding motorist to worry about a few sneaky smokes in a van??
I've heard a lot of people bitching about civil liberties and all that jazz, well thats a large amount of BS coming from narrow minded smokers who feel wronged. What about the likes of Roy Castle who played sax in smoking bars and died of cancer? would you rather poison someone off just so you can smoke inside?
I would recomend to anyone smoker or not to read Allen Carr's easyway it helped me understand the drug addiction.
Funny though surely that if they wanted people to stop smoking then surely they would just outlaw ciggarette's? its typical of a modern government to take with one hand and give back with the other.. how much do they make off tobacco sales? they arent going to give up an easy sorce of money just because when the poor smoker karks it the government in 20 years is going to foot the bill now are they?
Funny also how they introduced the ban in summer, so people dont mind going outside for a smoke, how is that going to change when winter comes??
The thing that really got me about the good old cancer sticks was at gatwick airport 2 years ago, they have this smoking pen there I popped in for a smoke with my lady and was enjoying feeding my addiction when this kid walked past holding his mums hand pointed at as all huddled around smoking. for the first time in my life i felt like an animal, a freak of society. Something to be pointed at and ridiculed, I vowed there and then when i came back i would change.
I dont mean to cause an arguement, I'm just expressing my mixed up views from all sides of the fence.
Posted Sun Aug 12, 2007 05:07 PM
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Posted Sun Aug 12, 2007 06:33 PM
I'm an ex-smoker by the way.
Posted Sun Aug 12, 2007 06:35 PM
Posted Sun Aug 12, 2007 06:36 PM
Too many people don't give a shit though. My mother will light up as we're sitting on a park bench next to little kids... it just doesn't phase her. She doesn't even think about it. You want a smoke? Walk at least a few feet away from those around you. Ten feet is preferable.
Posted Sun Aug 12, 2007 06:42 PM
You pay all that money to smell bad and get bad coughs and be sick more frequently and potentially get cancer or emphesema.
The biggest motivator for me was listening to my mother cough and hack up phlegm all the time. Ughhhh, soooo nasty and embarassing. She couldn't hold a convo without stopped to have one of her coughing fits.
Posted Sun Aug 12, 2007 06:43 PM
Posted Sun Aug 12, 2007 06:43 PM