Ode to Facials, explained poetically and psychologically
Posted Wed Dec 01, 2010 10:49 PM
Posted Wed Dec 01, 2010 11:12 PM
Posted Wed Dec 01, 2010 11:48 PM
But I don't know if that is the driving force behind the "trend". When I was dumb enough to have unprotected sex my partner cumming on my body was normal. Same if I was giving him a bj and didn't want to swallow, or couldn't swallow it all.
Now that I'm all grown up I don't really understand what the issue is with having a man's cum, or my own really, anywhere on my body, face most definitely included. It's just a natural part of sex... I'm certainly not one to get up right after sex and shower - hell no! I want to delight with him in our sweat, cum, whatever; hold and be held.
I have to agree with Phoenix and not just because I'm partial to him...cum, wherever it lands, is just a natural part of sex. Frankly, I like it on my face. I like the feeling of his cum pulsing onto my face, in my hair, mouth...I like the feeling of it dripping onto my chest, I like the creaminess and I like the sense of "I'm his" it gives me. Not demeaning to me in ANY way...just that we are completely and totally sharing our bodies. And if it is a rush for him - all the better....then it is a rush for both of us! Which is as it should be.
And if I didn't like it, I wouldn't fake it! I don't know how a woman could... a fake smile maybe??
I'm very interested in what you have to say, Mac.
This post has been edited by PЯΪИĊΣSS ΩF ĦΣÄЯŦS: Wed Dec 01, 2010 11:58 PM
Posted Thu Dec 02, 2010 12:12 AM
now there's crumbs all over the damn place
and she want me to cum all over her damn face
Thats my 2 cents
Posted Thu Dec 02, 2010 07:24 AM
Haha, now this has some promise...
If enough of these poems come around,
even I might be able to give it a try...
This post has been edited by Olive: Thu Dec 02, 2010 07:25 AM
Posted Thu Dec 02, 2010 01:10 PM
I have NO desire to do a jerk off facial. And I have NO desire to humiliate someone or mark my territory.
I've liked it because cum is the outcome of satisfied desire, the intensity of lust, and cumming is the moment of intensity. If I come on a woman's face, lips, breasts, or ass, it is, first, a joint celebration of this heat in shiney white warm spourting physical form. And it is an opportunity to direct that celebration at or on that one aspect of her that sent me over the top. I also like its unbridled aspect. I like the welcoming aspect. I want us to see what she did to me.
No humiliation. No territory.
I wish she understood that.
The more elegant the woman, the more I can see cum glistening on her.
Posted Thu Dec 02, 2010 04:31 PM
I don't understand the whole degrading issue. Not one bit.
Posted Thu Dec 02, 2010 04:55 PM
As lovely a sight I shall never see-
My husbands semen streaming onto me
Dripping slowly down my chin
Fingers on neck, I rub it in
Rub your cock between my thighs
Use your cum to moisturize
May I ask you pretty please
To make a deposit behind my knees?
How, I wonder, shall I ask
For a full facial beauty mask?
You have so much, oh please, do share
(I need some conditioner for my hair)
I suppose that I may like it best
When spurting up between my breasts
Use both hands gather the gift
Circling slipperys on my tits
I so enjoy when my cunt you fill,
Still I am waiting to see what spills.
Between my ass as your cock explodes,
I lube my fingers in your load.
Finger-painting is always most fun
When I paint my body with your cum
Please look deep into my eyes
And promise me a Supersize.
Posted Thu Dec 02, 2010 06:23 PM
Allow me to disagree. I enjoy sex and I can take a facial, but not because I enjoy it.
I enjoy pleasing, and I don't mind having things done to me when I'm fucking.
But I'm not particular to facials.
Water (main ingredient of semen) transfers heat faster
than air. If you've got your face full of cum, unless somebody sucks it off you,
it'll get colder and it doesn't feel good. When it's just out, it's about 36 degrees
Celsius. But it'll soon cool down. Itself and the part of the flesh it is in. It may
also slip in one's eyes, and it stings and it is a bit difficult to wash, unless done
immediately. It means interrupting the sex session.
Try it yourself and you'll see what I'm talking about.
Now, men who are ready to lick me clean may facialize me anytime. A guy
may cum on any part of me if he's willing to suck it clean. I may wipe it off with
some cloth, but I prefer to have it licked/sucked off. Lucky me, the men I fuck
aren't afraid of bodily fluids. So, they can do whatever they want with me and
I'll enjoy it, not for the thing in particular, but because they're hot enough to
make me steam, and pretty much anything is good when fucking hot people.
Most men don't wanna eat their own cum. I don't fuck many of those, but it
is a fact. If I'm fucking one of those, I don't want to have a facial. It may
happen, but I won't look for it.
If you're gonna have this one act and finish the fuck session, OK. You can
wash in the shower. But I like long sex sessions. Who's gonna "dry" my face?
If hair is involved, it'll be very difficult to have it licked clean. Did you try it? I did.
I give an example: guy likes sex, but he doesn't like fingers in his ass. Does
it mean he doesn't "truly" like sex? No. It just means he doesn't like fingers in
I've been sucking a friend's cum off another friend's vagina. But I don't like to
kiss her mouth. Does it mean I don't "truly" like sex? No. It means I don't like
kissing a woman's mouth.
Posted Thu Dec 02, 2010 08:25 PM
As sex most often leads to orgasm of both partners, the roads leading to that moment of bliss are various, and if they sometimes intertwine and follow exactly the same tracks, other times they diverge slightly. In order to not let your other half down during these moments, one can expect to go off his way for a while, seeking only to make the other one's moment more enjoyable; you can take it as walking down the road, then taking your woman in your arms to make her cross the mud. If the man does not enjoy utter satisfaction from this (getting his feet cold and wet and dirty), he will still do it out of love and galantry for his loved one, who will love this privilegied moment in the tender and protective arms of her man. As a gentleman's rule is ladies first, he might not get his jollies quick or at the same kind of beat as the woman; or he might just exert great effort and strenght in the accomplishment of his woman'sa pleasure, so he has no energies left for reaching his own epiphany. A nice and civilized woman would then most likely offer a helping hand or mouth to tend his needs and soothe his weary body; hence giving undivided attention to the wand that did pleasure her before.
Since i (like many others i presume) find the woman and her sensuality being a perfect being, a sanctified image of beauty and shining sexuality, the subject of all our desires and lust, what am i saying, a purest work of the perfect art of nature, it is only normal to revere such beauty and appreciate the sight and feelings of this perfection now dedicated to pleasing you back, returning the favors you gladly gave. And as most men through our history, have had a tendency to take things for their own, to shape them, to add their personal touch, then to her perfection i shall add my own touch, a part of my own body, pearly jewels glistening in the candle light to ornate the image of perfection and dedication, let it be just for one fleeting moment. Seeing your woman with a smile of pure love and relishing in the feeling of your seed on her face is a special kind of bliss, the kind of wich says without words " You gave it all for me, i'm all yours; i'm willing to be the perfect canvas for your lustful art because i love you and i know these favors will return perpetually between us".
Posted Thu Dec 02, 2010 09:48 PM
My point is that , yes, it might have a thing to do with domination, with "marking your territory", but if done in a context of mutual love and respect, as part of just taking turns to give undivided attention to each other, well it is beautiful and sexy and a form of love. I've read here and elsewhere on the net some extremely touching and moving things of the joy of submissive/dominant couples, and this, in my humble opinion, is an extremely nice and sweet form of attention to give for a mildly submissive woman to her gentleman dominant, considering the vast popularity of the act. i would love to hear more from women who like it, please. Can we compare this to an acquired taste? Like your first taste of coffee or beer; i know very few people who liked their first try of these substances, yet i know A LOT of people who use them regularly, love them and even are addicted to it. Or you could compare that to a guy who doesn't like shopping at all, but once he meets a sweet girl, he starts to enjoy shopping with her because he sees her having fun trying on clothes and sipping a tea...
Bottom line is, guys, if you are lucky to be with such a girl who freely gives you this pleasure out of true love, hold onto her, cherish her, shower her with love and attention; give her something at the measure of the sacrifice she made and the pleasure she gives you wich is even more mental than physical.
Posted Fri Dec 03, 2010 03:58 AM
So, ultimately it is a sacrifice?
I don't feel like I'm sacrificing myself when a guy comes on my face,
in my mouth, or any other part of my anatomy. These things are part of
the sexual game. Like I said, it isn't like I'm looking forward to it, but,
when it happens, it is because the sexual fun led there. It isn't a sacrifice.
Mainly when the guy licks it off my face.
If it feels like a sacrifice, anything one's doing during sex, or in life, in general,
I think it shouldn't be done at all. I wouldn't expect, nor demand a sacrifice
even from somebody I didn't care much about. From somebody I love: no way.
And you talk about bukkake. I don't think it is a sacrifice, either, if it happens as
part of the sexual play, if everybody involved is consenting. Again, it isn't
something I'd be looking forward to. But, if it happens as a "consequence",
as part of the sexual play, fine. I'm not diminished, degraded by it.
There isn't such a thing as degrading, humiliating in sex. Unless somebody is
making a sacrifice in the process. Unless it "feels" like there are sacrifices involved.
Posted Fri Dec 03, 2010 08:58 AM
That said, I have no problem in general with my man ejaculating on my body. My ex-husband would sometimes pull out and spurt onto my belly or breasts and I was fine with it. If I thought about, I would probably have assumed it was some sort of primitive male territorial thing, but it didn't really matter. He was my man and if he liked doing it, that was fine with me. If he was using his semen to "mark" me as belonging to him, well, that was perfectly appropriate since I did belong to him (as he belonged to me).
Ejaculating on my face is a little dicier. Again, my ex did it a few times and I accepted it because I loved him and wanted to please him, but if I had thought for a microsecond that it was demeaning or done mean-spiritedly, I would have raised holy hell. And I haven't allowed any man to do it since (been divorced for six years). Of course, oftentimes in the course of a blowjob you're going to get semen on your face, but that's different from him intentionally squirting on your face.
The way I see it, it's an expression of trust. I'm trusting that he's doing it for the eroticism of it or for the territorial thing, and not some sort of creepy misogynist thing. I guess it's similar in that respect to my swallowing his semen. I always swallowed my husband, but I'm very picky about who I will swallow now. But I don't spit either. What I mean is ... if I don't intend to swallow, then I won't suck him long enough to get to that point. It's just foreplay. This can get tricky, though. A penis is like a loaded gun ... you have to treat it like it could go off at any time
Posted Fri Dec 03, 2010 10:25 AM
Posted Fri Dec 03, 2010 03:03 PM
Posted Fri Dec 03, 2010 04:16 PM
I believe the first times, charged with apprehension, might require some sacrifice, from a feminist point of view. Meaning that even if it is done out of love and exchange of favors, the inital times it is tried you must step on your principles of dignity maybe, for those who have them. Meaning there are some women out there who are ultra puritan and sex mean dick in pussy end of the line. I know that because my GF used to be like that; it took me in total 3 years of placing a little line here and there and slow discussing to implant the idea in her mind that maybe it'd be cool if she let me cum in her mouth once in a while. So the first time for her was a shock indeed, and she sacrificed her principle of "it's bad" for my pleasure, wich i thanked her for abundantly. A kind of sacrifice one can also make, as i said before, when one goes out of his way to please the other one... Like if for example i'm really tired and exhausted, not surei will enjoy the sex, but as she is really horny, i gather the energy to give it all to her, for an intense ride to the peak, even if i'm totally drained and even suffering in the end; i give it toher because i know in some other situations, it was the reverse, and she was nice to me. Many times i had sex while suffering great pain in the joints, (ankles, knees, hips, i have no cartilage there...), but just for the sensuality and to see that smile of bliss on her face.
So yeah, sometimes we make sacrifices, for the ones we love...
Posted Fri Dec 03, 2010 08:38 PM
It seems you are addressing the result of a problem and not the cause. If I were having this similar conversation with my partner, the concept of sacrifice as a solution as you describe it would not be acceptable to me.
And this seems to be a common thread (one side should sacrifice) when there seems to be a discrepancy among sexualities, whether it's gay guys who can't hold hands in mixed spaces, or this sort of different vision of sex&sexuality that comes up between couples of all flavors.
I just wish that there could be a more thoughtful conversations about what things could be like in a culture that fosters healthy sexuality (for all), one that is creative and dynamic and accepting. And all I have to say about mainstream porn is that for some, it is part of the solution but for others it's part of the problem.
Posted Fri Dec 03, 2010 11:43 PM
This post has been edited by McAllister: Fri Dec 03, 2010 11:44 PM
Posted Sat Dec 04, 2010 10:25 AM
Please, don't be hurt by what I'm about to write. Mine is a personal
and biased opinion, so, it isn't worth much. But I'll write it here, because
it may be interesting to read, anyway. But it is biased and personal,
and I really don't mean to point fingers at you. I apologize in
The idea sacrifices would be expected and staged "hurts" me.
For personal reasons: I've been abused. It leaves marks. The way
somebody with my background sees it, you've manipulated a woman
into doing something she didn't want doing, and, eventually, she got
used to do it, because she loves you. She didn't like it (if it was
a sacrifice, by definition, she didn't like it), but you "asked" it of her
again. She did, because she loves you.
You "excuse" yourself by doing sacrifices in return (sex in pain, etc).
Two wrongs don't make one right.
I was told so many times by this man he loved me.
He only wanted what was good for me. What she
was doing was an expression of his love. When one talks to you so
much about love, and you're innocent, you don't know what he's really
expecting of you, you can't say no. You feel guilty if you do. You're
being manipulated. I've been there. It hurts like hell. It really, really
hurts. It's hurt so much, I didn't want to live. I'm still not much
attached to life. (Before someones tells me to see a psychiatrist,
I already have).
I get your point: you've done it with dialogue, patience, love,
etc. But it was still a sacrifice... I hope you see my point.
The way I see it, there are two completely different things:
1) one tells the other: I like this, this, and that. I understand you don't like
the idea, but I'll try to make you see it through my eyes and I'm
hoping you'll wanna do these things. So, I'll manipulate you.
I'll have a "hidden" agenda in my actions. It may take years, but
I'm investing on it, with the hope we can be both happy. I want this
to work out, because I love you.
So, the "hidden" agenda is in the open. She'd know where you were
heading. She could have said no.
I personally do this. I meet a guy. I like him. If I intend to have a
relationship with him, I'll tell what I like, what I do, and my intention
to continue doing it. I'll tell I eventually would like him to join in.
Of course I'll be "manipulating" him from then on, by my behavior in
bed, etc. But it's in the open. There were no subterfuges. I didn't lie
to him, I didn't hide my intentions from him.
2) It is completely different from having that "hidden" agenda from start.
Like: she's nice, I love her. I want her to swallow my cum, I wanna
cum on her face. I will move slowly, surreptitiously, and I'll get her to
do what I want. I'll do everything for her in return.
She wasn't given a chance to say "no", to break up with you. You've
moved slowly. She was in your web. Her "soul" was yours to keep and you
profited the situation to "implant" (your word!) something in her mind.
The same technique as yours was used in Red China. There was the
little red book. If you don't know about what I'm talking, read
something about the Cultural Revolution. It is called brainwashing.
I feel really bad writing these things, but I've warned you: I'm biased,
because of my background. Who am I, really, to know what went on
in your relationship during all these years? Maybe you did tell her you
had a "hidden" agenda from the start. If this was the case, I apologize.
But something tells me you seem to acknowledge what you've done is
wrong, that she is still making sacrifices: you feel the need to compensate
Of course, we all make mistakes, and we're all human. And sometimes we
do things only later we realize we were wrong.
Posted Sat Dec 04, 2010 12:32 PM
Does that make our couple a twisted perverted dysfunctionnal couple? Dunno, but to this day, we solved every crisis we came upon through patience, conversation, understanding, respect and sometimes sacrifice; both in sex, professionnal and family aspects. When she supported me financially through my second studies in woodworking, she made the sacrifices to go out less than before, to save money so we could pay the bills and stay together; when she went to university, i did the same, my turn to provide. Now she is back to school again, and i also provide and take care most of the time for our child, knowing that i'd see my friends and relations much less often this way. But i am willing to do this for her because our life together is beautiful and i want her to be happy and healthy (she wants to quit welding for health reasons, and i totally agree with that) so we can live well. Again, our relation might seem twisted to you, given your background, but on our side, it works pretty well, it has been for almost 12 years now, because we made efforts on both sides, to realize each other's fantasies, to support each other, to let each other breathe when needed.
On the topic of sacrifices in sex, well as i told you, if it was too much for her, we are open enough so she would have told me if she wanted to stop, she would have left me if she couldn't stand it anymore, and even though she is the love of my life, if she really wanted to leave, i'd rather see her go away than living a life of persecution in the same home as me, reflecting this negativity on our child; this would be something i'd refuse.
This post has been edited by McAllister: Sat Dec 04, 2010 12:35 PM