Hipocracrisy A critism on myself
Posted Thu Jan 05, 2012 07:51 PM
That wasn't the first time abortion and I have crossed paths. Two other times dealing with me personally. It was during that part of my life I was pro choice.
However, after watching my own children develop in their mothers womb I realized that there was indeed a little human in there.
I feel conflicted because I thought that I was firmly committed one way then did a 180 and did what was good for me now I feel like a hypocrit for wanting to be soft pro life.
Am I the only hypocrit out there? Hypocrits about other things? Please tell!
Posted Thu Jan 05, 2012 08:12 PM
You're not the only hyprocrite.
I am sooooo not interested in debating pro life/pro choice. You're experience is typical. If you feel, in your personal worldview, that abortion isn't okay but utilize it to avoid consequences or help someone you care about avoid said consequences, then you're like 100% of all other people in the world. I doubt the sincerety of anyone who hasn't broken any of thier own rules or gone against thier beliefs when faced with consequences or bi-products of something they did.
If there's one thing every human is proficient at, it's taking a look at one's own ethical parameters (regardless of what they are) and making an exception for themselves when it's thier butt on the chopping block.
Posted Thu Jan 05, 2012 09:05 PM
No two situations are the same , some have valid reasons , some dont .
It's up to you to decide what shade of grey each falls into .
I personally dont see what your going through as being a hypocrite , no more so than any other person out there >:]
Posted Fri Jan 06, 2012 12:47 AM
In other words: pure closed minded density. Questioning your beliefs from time to time, examining them in the light of new evidence, that is the symptom of a healthy mind. Call it hypocrisy, call it uhhh "hipocracrisy" (no idea what that is), but in the end, it's just your minds way of telling you that maybe that one belief doesn't fit all situations, or that maybe there are some exceptions to the rules in life.
Posted Fri Jan 06, 2012 09:12 AM
As imperfect and contradictory as we are, we can only do our best to go through life hurting the least we possibly can the people we share this planet with.
None of us has "THE ANSWER" to anything. We just keep trying, and keep learning.
Posted Sun Jan 08, 2012 02:20 AM
-Pregnancy from rape
-Pregnancy in which a birth defect is detected in the foetus leading to physical and/or mental handicap(s)
-Pregnancy in which the child would be born with an illness
-Pregnancy in which the life of the mother may be at risk.
-Pregnancy in which the mother is not financially capable of providing for her child.
-Pregnancy in which one or both of the parents are not mentally equipped to raise a child
-Pregnancy in which the mother is a minor (Youngest recorded case was a 5 year old if I recall correctly)
-Pregnancy in which the parents are just simply put abusive assholes
-Pregnancy in which the child will be born into a country with a high mortality rate
Added to this keep in mind that mental development of a foetus is incredibly limited. In fact a 3-day old embryo (a blastocyst). has only 150 cells, while a fly's brain has over 100,000. Obviously it is impossible for anyone to calculate a precise cut off point for self awareness. But we can hopefully agree that an early abortion takes place at a time when cellular development is at a point when complex brain function hasn't kicked in.
Now lets consider this, fertilised eggs do not always attach themselves to the womb and are often flushed out with menstral blood. So if fertilisation is the point at which abortion is deemed unethical then pro-lifers really need to stop having unprotected sex until we can fix this. It's impossible to get an exact figure but this accounts for 40-60% of fertilised eggs.
Finally the argument that I'm sure most pro-lifers will say that I've ignored is that abortion is about destroying the potential for human life and that all life should be cherished irregardless of the factors I listed above. Well to this I say, how far do you want to take that argument. To quote Monty Python is "Every sperm sacred" what about skin flakes that carry our genetic code? Should we save those up in the hope that they can be cloned. Of course not and the reason is that whilst potential is a great thing it ultimately boils down to a possibility or a choice. If a woman chooses to have an abortion then there will be consequences just as how there are consequences for anything else in life. The path of bringing a child full term will have consequences for thousands of lives and ultimately we as rational adults need to be able to work out which path will be the more beneficial of the two. We should do so with consideration not just into our own needs and desires but also that of the unborn child. In short do we want quantity of life or quality of life?
But having said all this the original post is more about hypocrisy in acting in self interest and not in line with our own beliefs. To this I say, firstly our opinions and values change with time and the discovery of new information. Secondly we can believe one thing in theory but not really know how we ourselves would react when that theory becomes practical. I can say that I'm pro-choice all that I like but if it was my unborn child on the line, I could react entirely out of line and want my partner to carry out the pregnancy even when she did not feel the same way. Like others have mentioned it's all shades of gray. The best way to live your life is treat every situation on it's own merits and make what you deem to be the best judgement at the time. No set of rules can ever account for every eventuality and you shouldn't expect every situation to have an easy answer. It's this complexity that makes life both difficult and interesting.
This post has been edited by ATHEIST45: Sun Jan 08, 2012 02:23 AM