older men fantasy
Posted Wed Jun 10, 2009 06:47 PM
Posted Wed Jun 10, 2009 06:53 PM
Edit: oops, nope, this might be serious. Expect a lot of PMs to come your way.
Posted Wed Jun 10, 2009 06:54 PM
My friend is 12 years older than me which is nice
Posted Wed Jun 10, 2009 09:17 PM
Posted Wed Jun 10, 2009 09:36 PM
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Posted Wed Jun 10, 2009 10:43 PM
I just turned 18 and had sex a few times but I really think that I would enjoy it more if fucked a much older man. I have this fantasy where I get gangbanged by older guys, it makes me so wet! Well I just wanted to share my fantasy
Well, when it comes to your "Grandpa Gangbang" fantasy, I guess I should say..."you're welcome."
(I just imagined a funny cross between "Bangbus" and "Senior Stagecoach." Maybe the theme song would be "Baby Take Your Teeth Out.")
But in all seriousness, I think you're really just slightly ahead of your time (collectively speaking), and your fantasy is actually quite meaningful and prescient.
One of the biggest problems in western society, perhaps the biggest, is the way we keep sex so separate from the rest of our lives. Of course this is changing now - one of the social benefits of porn is that everyone gets exposed to sex and sexuality, and it can no longer be controlled through social taboos. There's been a real historical benefit to how we've kept sex so contained: we essentially used our collective sexual energy to drive the expansion of our society. Instead of just letting people openly talk about and have sex, we channeled that creativity into the development of the past 4,000+ years of technology and colonization of the western world. (That's what happened when in myth Moses damned the revelers at the bottom of the mountain - male, mental energy condemned, separated from, and later harnessed the female, life energy of the body.) Today we run much of our economy off of this harnessed sex drive. Think of how much time in everyone's day goes into indirectly trying to get sex by buying or creating something, whether that's the right car, or the right clothes, or the right food or phone or beer or anything at all. The creation and growth of all of those things was powered by the sublimated sex drive of western society. But now that the growth spurt needed to colonize the planet is over (it's overdone, really), and we're developing enough of the collective support structures such as the net to let us deal with our sexuality directly (sex is a very, very powerful energy, the power of creation itself, and one needs great personal strength to use it but not be totally consumed by it), we're going to get the opportunity to stop sublimating and experience our sexuality for its own sake.
It's also true that the separation of mind and body, the enslavement of the female by the male, is the essential cause of our destruction of our bodies and our planet. We in the west are hard split between mind and body, and locking away all that dangerously powerful sex stuff also locked away our ability to feel and experience and care for and celebrate nature, the physicality of our bodies and our planet. And so we've ended up living a toxic lifestyle, because our separation of mind and body means we can't feel the consequences of our actions until the effects are huge and undeniable. Now we really have no choice from a survival perspective other than to start to bring mind and body back together.
And one of the other tragic effects of keeping sex out of sight is that we as individuals get hardly any instruction about it at all. For as important as sex is, in our society we spend more time teaching young people how to drive a car, or do the math necessary to make change at the mall, than we do about sex. We teach people how to feed themselves physically (though again, the mind-body split means we don't even do that very well), but we don't teach people how to feed themselves sexually. When it comes to sex, it's as if when our children get hungry we freak out and shove them out into the back alley and say "good luck."
Why, if we care about our children and each other, would we do this to each other? If your kid came to you and said "I'm hungry, how do I take care of myself now? Please help me" would you think the healthy response to be to drop them off with a bunch of other starving, feral kids and hope they figured something out? Of course not. So why do we still do this with sex?
Well, as I said at the beginning, the reason we did this with sex is because we needed to use sexual energy to develop the things we were going to need later, otherwise we really were never going to be any different than every other animal, just living in our limbic system, with adulthood being measured only by one's ability to physically reproduce. And humans have a different role to play for the planet.
Now that we have not just the technological structures, but the structures and stability in human consciousness (if you're going to release the energy of life itself, you'd damn well better have a system that can contain and channel all that energy, otherwise you don't power the world, you obliterate it), it's time for us to fulfill our real destiny in this world.
So your fantasy of being initiated into sexual awareness by older, more skilled, more mature and understanding members of society, who would teach you about sex and passion and ecstasy and dissolving the imagined boundaries between us, with the same care and love that one brings to the raising of one's children, is actually the vision, the dream of our near future, the sustainable and loving future where sex is celebrated as part of (but not all of) our society and our lives.
We see this happening in small, unconscious ways through things like Sex Forums itself. All that I'm talking about happens here, simply in very small ways - the wisdom of those more experienced is offered to those about to step into that part of life. So what you're fantasizing about is happening already, with each of the responses in this thread. The next step is to move from doing this unconsciously and mentally (again, we're starting from unconscious and mind-centered, so of course that would be how it would begin) to doing it consciously and physically.
Of course, for this initiation into sexuality to be meaningful and not destructive it has to be done with care and love, for the best interest of and in the highest service to, each person. Sexual initiation in service to one's own sexual needs, as the older, responsible person, is sexual cannibalism. It's no different than feeding and caring for one's young - so they'll make a good meal in winter. This is why the social taboos around incest are so strong, because the energy for this connection is so great, but without strength and wisdom the consequences are so damaging.
But done from love, the connection of the wisdom of those who have reached mid-life, the moment where they can feel and accept both birth and death, and the understanding that there is more to life than just the ecstasy of sex but also the connection to and expression of the love of God (however we each might interpret that), to the first opening and flowering of the human body and vibrant, creative, and expressive existence, bonds together above and below, God and human, the awareness of God at the top of the mountain with the celebration of joy of being incarnate and mortal at the bottom. It's the fertilizing of the egg of our human existence with the sperm of our spiritual one, allowing us to live our lives not in fear of life or death or God or each other, but with an unbreakable, living connection to all parts, to life and death, human and sacred, and to see and experience and live everything as one whole.
So what you're creating, each time you imagine your fantasy, is a world where sex is celebrated, natural, and joyful, and each of us is ushered into it with love and honor and happiness, where midlife isn't seen as the end of sexuality, or sexual attractiveness, or meaningful life, but as just the beginning of the best part, a second half even better than the first. The sacrifice that each side makes, the offering of one's innocence so vulnerably, the offering of one's wisdom with such love and restraint, is the transcendence of the bonds of human suffering, the escape from samsara, the conscious giving of one's own life, and receiving the same, as the radiant embodiment of pure love.
And that all, for all humanity, starts with your gangbang.
Thank you for being so brave and so vulnerable and so exquisitely beautiful in offering yourself to us.
Posted Thu Jun 11, 2009 12:11 AM
I'm curious if you know why you have this fantasy?
Posted Thu Jun 11, 2009 12:35 AM
Hmmm...how's 40 on the dot sound???
Posted Thu Jun 11, 2009 09:37 AM
I'm willing to help if you don't mind an extra set of...well, everything.
Posted Thu Jun 11, 2009 04:19 PM
Posted Thu Jun 11, 2009 04:37 PM
How you doin
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